Honda dreaming up Civic Type R variants – with more power, AWD

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The Honda Civic Type R has gone on sale in the US, and it promises a lot of entertainment for its eager fan base. On our recent drive, we found it to be impressively stable for a front-drive car boasting 306 horsepower. Making this more impressive, as Jalopnik reports, the Type R makes 295 hp at the wheel according to a dyno test. Compared to many vehicles, that’s a rather small loss between the engine and the wheels.

If, for some reason, the Type R isn’t powerful enough for you, or you don’t like the front-drive layout, Hondamight still find a way to make you a Type R customer. According to Automotive News, Honda is planning a number of variants to broaden the appeal and extend sales once the first enthusiasts have already made their purchases.

The first candidate for a special Type R would be a sportier, more powerful version. Honda’s chief engineer for the Civic lineup, Hideki Matsumoto, told Automotive News that a more civilized grand touring version is also under consideration. Perhaps most interesting is the possibility of an all-wheel-drive Type R that would compete more directly with the likes of the Volkswagen Golf R, Subaru WRX STI, and Ford Focus RS. So, while the wait is over for the Type R’s arrival in the US, the slow burn of the rollout is just beginning as Honda works to give the model staying power in the marketplace.

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Brand-new 2017 Honda Civic Type R wrecked on drive home from dealer

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For this week’s entry in New Car Dreams, Shattered, we point you to the tale of Greg Ellingson, a man who flew from Philadelphia to Boston to pick up his sporty new 2017 Honda Civic Type R only to finish the trip home in a tow truck with a wrecked car.

No one was injured in the crash, which took place Sunday on Interstate 95 in Connecticut.

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“Jackass not paying attention hit me full on and pushed me into another car,” he wrote in a Facebook update that, unlike his badly damaged hatchback, has caught fire. The post, which also included photos of his badly damaged grey Type R, had been shared more than 4,000 times and had attracted more than 1,800 comments as of this story’s publication.

Reached by phone Monday, Ellingson, said he was stopped in traffic on I-95 when he paused to change the radio station, was rear-ended by an older man and pushed into another vehicle. He said he didn’t see the car coming.

“He wasn’t on the breaks when he hit me, he was on the gas,” Ellingson said.

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“There was some considerable distance between me and the car in front of me,” he said, adding that he had enough time to take his hand off the radio dial and place it on the shifter before he was driven into another car in front of him.

The man who struck him did not appear to be using a cellphone at the time of the crash, he said.

Ellingson had posted an earlier update about his new purchase on Facebook, checking in at Boston Logan Airport on Sunday and announcing he was “Picking up mah new cah.” His plan was to drive it home after paying $39,000 out the door.

Ellingson works as a sales consultant for Scott Honda in West Chester, Pa. He said his dealership had sold out its inventory of Civic Type Rs, which have an MSRP of $33,900, and he spent two months trying to find a dealership that would sell him one at a reasonable price.

“There’s a lot of effort that went in to just getting the car,” Ellingson said.

The Type R bears a 2.0-liter, DOHC, direct-injected, turbocharged, i-VTEC inline-four that delivers 306 horsepower and 295 pound-feet of torque. Ellingson’s version had a mere 151 miles on it — the odometer was at 12 when he left the dealership — when the crash occurred.

In an update on Facebook, Ellingson was highly complimentary of both the Connecticut State Police trooper who assisted on the scene and Honda Link Assist, which asked him to pull off the road and contacted him to see if he needed assistance.

“Looking back, most importantly I’m grateful my Honda protected me,” he wrote. “I came out without even a scratch. I’ve been selling new Hondas for almost a year now and I read about their safety, I’ve seen the crash test videos but experiencing it first hand is a whole different thing. The engineers who designed this car did a fantastic job. It took all the brunt and all 4 doors still open!

Ellingson also said he purchased special insurance for the collectors car and expects to be covered in full if the vehicle is declared totaled.

Maybe Ellingson can bond with the man whose Ferrari 430 Scuderia went up in flames last week in England after crashing it just an hour after acquiring it. The driver of that considerably more expensive car reportedly suffered only cuts and bruises.

[Source: Autoblog]

EPA beats Honda to revealing Civic Type R’s mpg: 22/28/25

The Environmental Protection Agency reports that there will be a version of the Honda Civic for 2017 powered by a 2.0-liter turbocharged engine mated to a 6-speed manual transmission. This, quite obviously, is the new Civic Type R, which is coming to America for the first time in its 20-year history. Honda has yet to provide detailed fuel efficiencyspecs, but that’s no problem – the EPA beat ’em to it. Expect official ratings of 22 miles per gallon in the city, 28 on the highway and 25 combined.

Let’s put those figures into some context. The Volkswagen Golf R is a direct competitor to the Type R, and it’s rated at 23 city and 30 highway with the DSG or 22/30/25 with the 6-speed manual. Oddly, while both its city and highway figures are better than the Civic, the VW gets the same combined figure of 25 mpg. Moving up a notch, the Ford Focus RS, which is quite a bit more powerful at 350 hp and 350 lb-ft, gets EPA ratings of 19/25 and 22 combined. It’s worth noting that the Ford and VW are both all-wheel drive while the Honda is front-drive only.

If you need to brush up on your Type R knowledge, know that it’s powered by a DOHC, direct-injected, turbocharged, i-VTEC inline-four that makes 306 horsepower and 295 pound-feet of torque. Equally as noteworthy, that peak torque is available from 2,500 to 4,500 rpm, which ought to make for great fun at passing speeds on public roads. And, with its Nürburgring lap time of 7 minutes and 43.8 seconds, it’ll be quite quick at the track, too.

[Source: Autoblog]

Finesse over power | 2017 Honda Civic Si Video Review

Last month, we went to Southern California to try out the 2017 Honda Civic Si. It’s the first completely new Civic Si since the previous generation departed after the 2015 model year. Among the big questions we sought to answer was whether the car’s underwhelming 205-horsepower output was adequate. As we learned, it’s peppy enough, however, the Civic Si is about more than power. Check out the video here.

On the winding roads of Angeles National Forest and at Honda’s Mojave-based proving grounds, the Civic Si shines with excellent handling, superb steering, and a good shifter. It also has plenty of features and a low price that make it a great value. Come along for the ride in the video above, and check out the full written review for more details.

[Source: Autoblog]

2017 Civic Type R will start at $34,775 according to Monroney photo

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The wait for the Civic Type R is almost over, and now we know how much it will cost when it arrives at dealers. A member of the CivicX.com forum found a lot full of new Type Rs near a port. According to his post, he saw someone attaching window stickers. Window stickers of course show prices, so he went over and snapped a picture of a stock one without options. As you can see below, the car will start at $34,775. The sticker also says the model shown is a Touring trim, which suggests there may be a better-equipped model above it. You can see the photo at CivicX.com along with photos of the cars waiting to be delivered.

This price makes the Type R the cheapest of the hardcore hot hatches. It’s over $2,000 less than the Ford Focus RS, and nearly $5,500 less than the Volkswagen Golf R. Whether it’s the better value is still up for debate, though, since both of the Type R’s primary competitors have two more driven wheels, and the Ford makes over 40 more horsepower than the Honda. As far as driven wheels go, though, the Civic Type R does have some bragging rights thanks to taking the Nürburgring record for front-wheel-drive cars.

2017 Honda Civic Si goes on sale tomorrow, starts at $24,775

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Pricing for the all-new 2017 Honda Civic Si has finally been revealed, just in time for its dealership debut. In fact, the new Civic Si hits dealerships tomorrow, Saturday, May 13, with a very competitive base MSRP of $24,775. Although it’s down on power, the Civic Si undercuts competition like the Subaru WRX, Volkswagen GTI, and Ford Focus ST.

That’s no surprise, as the Civic Si has long been one of the most affordable sport compacts around. Though we haven’t had a chance to sample the car for ourselves, Honda is building on top of what is arguably the best Civic ever. In typical Honda fashion, there are no options on the new car, just pre-packaged trim levels. Both the coupe and sedan start at $24,775. Both models can be had with summer tires, bumping the price slightly to $24,975. $200 for a full set of summer tires is a really good deal.

The Civic Si comes with a turbocharged 1.5-liter inline four making 205 horsepower and 192 lb-ft of torque, though we have good reason to believe those are very conservative figures. Power is fed to the front wheels through a short ratio six-speed manual transmission. Curb weight is down for both the sedan and coupe, tipping the scales at 2,906 and 2,889 lbs respectively.

Standard equipment – the same on both models – includes dual zone climate control, heated seats, and push-button start. The Civic Si also comes with a 7-inch touchscreen infotainment system. In addition to Android Auto and Apple CarPlay, the display can show boost pressure, lap times, shift lights, and a G-meter. Stay tuned for our full first-drive review.

Hidden gem | 2017 Honda Civic Sport Hatchback Quick Spin Review

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Autonomous driving might be the future, but at present we live in a golden age of automobiles. For proof, look not to the Bugatti Chiron or Dodge Hellcat, but everyday rides like the Honda Civic Sport. In this specific case, I’m talking about the hatchback version, a body style with a rich history of affordable performance. And while the Civic is definitely a hidden gem, it’s by no means an exception. The Hyundai Elantra Sport, Mazda 3, and Volkswagen Golf also back up the argument, but for the scope of this story I’m sticking to the Civic.

Exhibit A is some historical context. With 180 horsepower and a claimed 2,864 pounds of curb weight, the Civic Sport hatch carries 15.9 pounds for each of its horses. That’s less than the iconic second-generation (a.k.a. Mk2) Volkswagen GTI 16V, the original Nissan Sentra SE-R, and the seventh-generation Civic Si hatchback. The 2017 car is also just below the celebrated sixth-generation (1999–2000) Civic Si coupe.

In today’s dollars, that 1999 Civic would cost about $25,500 new, making the 2017 model’s base price of $22,215 a bargain. And the old Civic didn’t come with extras like stability control, side and curtain airbags, or automatic climate control. Like I said, golden age.

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To paraphrase scholarly papers, more research is needed to investigate these early findings. But a long weekend behind the wheel supports the hypothesis that the Civic Sport hatchback is at least worthy of mention in the same conversation as its historic forebears. First, there’s the 1.5-liter turbocharged four-cylinder, which makes 177 pound-feet of torque in manual, Sport trim. Other small-displacement turbo engines either pummel you with instant torque or feel dead until the boost comes in. Honda’s motor makes the competition feel dumb. It’s linear, smooth, and builds momentum as the tachometer rushes to the redline.

Manual transmissions are so rare that any shifter deserves a critical pass just to encourage more people to try shifting for themselves, but this is one of the good ones. The seats are adequately supportive, and the pedals line up just right for heel-toe maneuvers. In the Civic, you find yourself charging hard in weird places, like going hard on the brakes coming up to an empty intersection or letting out an audible “woot” at the sight of an empty onramp. It’s the kind of car you drive fast when nobody’s watching, purely for your own pleasure.

We’ve already covered the basics on the Civic hatch, including the innovative rear cargo cover. And I actually disagree with Jeremy – I think the hatchback looks good, and I dig the big dual central exhaust.

Now for the bad news, which is the paucity of options plaguing modern cars with manual transmissions. You can’t get the Honda Sensing active safety suite in this trim level, and the top-of-the-line Sport Touring that gets you all that only comes with a CVT. That means no lane-departure warning, active cruise, or forward-collision warning and collision-mitigation braking system if you want the stick shift. Based on the lackadaisical calibration of adaptive cruise in other Civics, this is not a total loss, but it could deter safety-conscious parents and first-time buyers from living the three-pedal lifestyle. And while the radio is blessedly simple with both a volume and tuning knob, there’s no touchscreen, which means no Apple CarPlay or Android Auto like in pricier Civics.

The Civic hatchback is one of those rare cars where the solid fundamentals make up for the lack of available modern convenience. Heck, even the old-school keyed ignition becomes part of the Civic’s recurring theme of driver engagement. The Civic Sport hatchback rewards the sentimental notion of enjoying the act of driving.

[Source: Autoblog]